20-10-2008, 06:47 PM
Heyas,
Ive got a VE SS ute ... as youre probably aware the battery is inside the cabin, behind the passenger seat.
The battery seems to be weak as p1ss! ... my VY with a standard battery would be able to crank loud music (a 4 channel amp powering a 12in sub, splits, and the deck) ... for practically days on end before power was ever an issue ... likewise with a 40litre engel sitting in the tray.
The VE however seems to go flat within a few hours of even just running an amp (the same amp) ... and thats using ipod directly into amp (so its not stacker chewing power) ... add the fridge and it dies in the butt quick smart.
What im contemplating is repalcing the batter, but being an 'inside' battery, im wondering if anyone else has previously researched replacement batteries for the VE utes ... or any other input on the subject?
Either way with 2 or 3 deadenings already, the factory battery will be shagged ... so a new one, preferably with more plates and probably deep cycle will be in order. ... Possibly with a dual battery system, and some sort of smart solenoid ... im yet to go pick the brain of my local auto sparky yet so im not sure what my options are, considering the battery is inside cabin and VE's seem to be a little mysterious with their electrical system.
Also, noted when the battery does go flat ... it turns every single light on, headlights, interior domes, etc ... and you can NOT turn them off, nor lock or unlock ... just what drugs were holdens engineers on in regards to the electrical system!
As to engineering menu ... ive given up trying to understand the 'battery charge' reading ... it seems to have a mind of its own and doesnt seem to correlate to actualy battery charge. Ive seen it say 95% when its been OFF for 3 hrs and almost not enough juice to start ... othertimes after a 4 hour long drive, itll say 60% ... i dont get the logic of that reading.
Are there any known issues with VE's being crap at keeping charge high, or anything along those lines? I do know the power that comes out of the factory accessory socket is a farce, no idea what the car is doing but it would constantly upset the fridge (6-8amps) and other issues (have now put in a direct feed from the battery to a jack in the toughdek in the tray so thats no longer an issue).
I still cant quite comprehend why the thing gets nailed so quickly, and moreso its the stereo (key in ignition on accessor, as the amp is not direct feed) ... either the battery in VE is just plain CRAP, OR the car is not charging properly. This all occurred even from day one ...
Thoughts, opinions on best (without spending too much $$) way forward? (for anyone with specific experience to VE / VE utes)
Ive got a VE SS ute ... as youre probably aware the battery is inside the cabin, behind the passenger seat.
The battery seems to be weak as p1ss! ... my VY with a standard battery would be able to crank loud music (a 4 channel amp powering a 12in sub, splits, and the deck) ... for practically days on end before power was ever an issue ... likewise with a 40litre engel sitting in the tray.
The VE however seems to go flat within a few hours of even just running an amp (the same amp) ... and thats using ipod directly into amp (so its not stacker chewing power) ... add the fridge and it dies in the butt quick smart.
What im contemplating is repalcing the batter, but being an 'inside' battery, im wondering if anyone else has previously researched replacement batteries for the VE utes ... or any other input on the subject?
Either way with 2 or 3 deadenings already, the factory battery will be shagged ... so a new one, preferably with more plates and probably deep cycle will be in order. ... Possibly with a dual battery system, and some sort of smart solenoid ... im yet to go pick the brain of my local auto sparky yet so im not sure what my options are, considering the battery is inside cabin and VE's seem to be a little mysterious with their electrical system.
Also, noted when the battery does go flat ... it turns every single light on, headlights, interior domes, etc ... and you can NOT turn them off, nor lock or unlock ... just what drugs were holdens engineers on in regards to the electrical system!
As to engineering menu ... ive given up trying to understand the 'battery charge' reading ... it seems to have a mind of its own and doesnt seem to correlate to actualy battery charge. Ive seen it say 95% when its been OFF for 3 hrs and almost not enough juice to start ... othertimes after a 4 hour long drive, itll say 60% ... i dont get the logic of that reading.
Are there any known issues with VE's being crap at keeping charge high, or anything along those lines? I do know the power that comes out of the factory accessory socket is a farce, no idea what the car is doing but it would constantly upset the fridge (6-8amps) and other issues (have now put in a direct feed from the battery to a jack in the toughdek in the tray so thats no longer an issue).
I still cant quite comprehend why the thing gets nailed so quickly, and moreso its the stereo (key in ignition on accessor, as the amp is not direct feed) ... either the battery in VE is just plain CRAP, OR the car is not charging properly. This all occurred even from day one ...
Thoughts, opinions on best (without spending too much $$) way forward? (for anyone with specific experience to VE / VE utes)
- Firstly, a big thankyou goes to DoubleDip for posting this important information in the forums !!!!!
Without this information, many members were blowing fuses when fitting late model head units to earlier model vehicles.
Procedure for installing Version 9 (MY09.5) radio into earlier built vehicle (pre MY09.5)
During the life of VE and WM vehicles there have been several revisions to the radio.
These different radios have different version numbers assigned to them.
Vehicles built prior to 27/10/08 (Introduction date of MY09.5 - BSI) will have a version 4, version 5 or version 6 radio.
At MY09.5 introduction, the version was updated to version 9.
In some cases when replacing a radio, dealers will be supplied a later version radio by Bosch.
Installing a version 9 radio into an earlier built vehicle will result in fuse 4 (radio) blowing.
In order to prevent this happening, a modification to the wiring harness is required.
Follow the procedure below when installing a version 9 radio into an earlier vehicle.
Version 9 radios can be identified by the Holden P/N or Bosch P/N on the unit. Refer to following table which lists all version 9 P/N?s.
Holden P/N Bosch P/N
92228621 7648791920-002
92228618 7648794920-002
92228617 7648795920-002
92228615 7648796920-002
Procedure:
1. Disconnect the battery
2. Remove the radio.
3. Locate pin 4 of connector X4 at radio.
4. Cut the wire going to pin 4 and insulate both ends with heat shrink or similar.
5. Refit the radio and reconnect the battery.
6. Test operation of the radio.
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